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Username Post: Ομιλειτε Ελληνικα !!        (Topic#30559)
anavrian 
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12-12-05 03:44 AM - Post#30559    


Ολα δειχνουν οτι τα σημερινα Ελληνοπουλα της Αμερικης δεν μιλανε καθολου Ελληνικα η μιλανε πολλυ λιγο. Μαζι με τη γλωσσα χανεται και η Ελληνικη συνειδηση και επερχεται η αφομοιωση.
Τι φταιει? Τι πρεπει να γινει? Τι προτεινετε?







 
MANOULI 
Journey Through Chaos
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12-12-05 07:38 AM - Post#30561    

    In response to anavrian

read posts on the subject







 
Notos 
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Notos
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12-12-05 09:01 AM - Post#30565    

    In response to anavrian

Proteinw na ta kleisoume se ena dwmatio kai na ta ypoxrewsoume na akoun Ellhnika 24 wres to 24wro...

Kanonikh plysh egkefalou dhladh! Mono etsi isws na mathoun kapoia Ellhnika.

Sobara twra, gia na mathei kapoios Ellhnika prepei na thelei na mathei, me to zori den ginete..

Mhn treleneste an mathoun h den mathoun Ellhnika, auto pou metraei panw ap ola einai na bgoun kaloi anthrwpoi !!!

Kaneis den mporei na epibalei sta paidia tou na agaphsoun kati pou den to zoun kathimerina, an kai polloi goneis prospathoun...

Pantws den einai kai to telos tou kosmou, zoun se allh xwra, epomeno einai na afomoiwthoun apo auth thn xwra.

An yphrxe kalyterh ypodomh stous Ellhnikous syllogous gia thn neolaia isws ta paidia na endiaferontousan gia kathe ti Ellhniko perissotero...alla afou ola einai proxeira kai peristrefonte gyrw apo thn ekklhsia kai ta panygyria mhn exete apaithseis na ta goustaroun ta paidia kai na trelathoun me kathe ti Ellhniko.

Ta paidia theloun alla pragmata gia na goustaroun thn Ellada, poly poio synxrona kai pou den exoun kammia sxesh me ta idia kai ta idia pou tpous prosferoun xronia twra oi ekklhsies kai ta sxoleia... Diabaste to arthro pou brhke H leniw se topikh efhmerida ths Neas Yorkhs...

Auta xreiazonte na ginoun gia na goustaroun ta paidia na asxolithoun me otidhpote Ellhniko...mexri tote mhn psaxnete na brhte ti ftaiei, kseroume ti ftaiei!
To thema einai pws na ftiaxtei me ta aparxaiwmena myala pou dioikoun tous Ellhnikous syllogous.

Xreiazonte nea pragmata gia na thelei h neolaia twn Ellhnwn tou ekswterikou na mathei Ellhnika apo monh ths...
If you want to be a Great Nation some day... start acting like one today!!!








 
NTINA76 
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12-12-05 10:27 AM - Post#30569    

    In response to anavrian

Ego pisteyo pos ftene oi goneis einai fisiko an oi goneis den milane sto spiti ellinika na mhn milane kai ta pedia







 
Notos 
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Notos
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12-12-05 10:39 AM - Post#30571    

    In response to NTINA76

Ki auto swsto, alla auto isxyei mallwn gia goneis pou exoun genithtei sto ekswteriko...
If you want to be a Great Nation some day... start acting like one today!!!








 
anavrian 
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Loc: GR
Registered on 12-10-05
12-12-05 02:35 PM - Post#30578    

    In response to Notos

Ti enoeite ...na goustaroun? Diladi? Pio sugkekrimena exete na kanete kapoia protasi?

Ego manouli zitisa apopseis kai idees....ti enoeis read posts?
Ego den zo gonatistos......








 
MANOULI 
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12-12-05 06:39 PM - Post#30584    

    In response to anavrian

Anavrian, ennousa oti exei ginei thema afto kiolas edw sta forums, kai oi apopseis exoun ypothei.
Enas goneas den ftaiei ean ta paidia tou den theloun na mathoun Ellinika, asxeta pou genithike aftos o goneas. Me to maxeri sto laimo den ginete... einai kai sto paidi h thelish na mathei or na sinexisei na ta milaei. Den tha ta plakwseis sto ksylo ean sou poune... "na ta kanw ti ta Ellinika?"

Oso eitane mikra tous matheneis, apo ekei kai epita dikia tous epilogh. Aloi einai perifanoi gia thn culture tous, kai aloi den thn ekdilwnoun. Edw sthn Ellada milane olo kai pio poly Agglika, poso mallon apenadi edw..

Ola dikaiomata einai, kai mono oi sinthikes diaferoun... pote to fteksimo tou gonea, that is simply crap and childish to say. You teach them everything as Greeks... to ti kratane apo afta... ekeina tha apofasisoun.

H an theleis krata ta exmalotous, na exoun mono partides me allous Ellines, na koitane Ellinikh TV, na akoune Ellinikh litourgia, na akoune mono Ellinikh music (good luck) kai meta elate na mas peite thn gnwmh sas pios ftaiei pou den milane Ellinika







 
anavrian 
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Loc: GR
Registered on 12-10-05
12-12-05 07:10 PM - Post#30589    

    In response to MANOULI

Sigoura me to maxairi sto laimo den ginetai.....
Ego aplos rotisa gia tis apopseis sas....ti prepei na ginei gia na ksekinisoun ta paidia apo mikra na mathainoun tin glosa...otan ftasoun se megali hlikia meta oti kai na kaneis einai pia arga....tote einai safos thema dikis tous epilogis.

Ego apla diavasa gia goneis pou kai oi idioi den poluendiaferontai....gia aneparkeia sxoleion kai daskalon...h gia kakopliromenous daskalous pou ki autoi den kseroun kala-kala Ellhnika.....
Kai rotao...ti ftaiei?
Ftaei h athanati Ellhniki nootropia pou den afinei tous Ellhnes na organothoun kai na kanoun ta aparaitita vimata....?
Ftaiei oti perasan polla xronia kai telika h afomoiosi einai anapofeukti?

Eseis tha stelnate to paidi sas na mahei ellhnika...an xreiazotan na plirosete gi auto??
Mipos psaxnoume to tzampa...kai to tzampa ton sxoleion ths Eklhsias exei san apotelesma ta sxoleia na parexoun gnoseis xamilis poiotitas?

Mporei kapoia pramata na exoun eipothei noritera se diaforetika Posts....alla ego toulaxiston den vrika oles tis apopseis kapou mazemenes....
An pali nomizete oti to thema den sas afora h den exei endiaferon...
its OK with me... :-)
Ego den zo gonatistos......








 
MANOULI 
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12-12-05 08:21 PM - Post#30592    

    In response to anavrian

Einai kai poly endiaferwn to thema. As pw ligo.

Ean oi goneis figane apo thn Ellada me thn proipothesh na riskoun petra pisw tous (kai poloi to kanane kai kanoun) den tha mathoun sta paidia tous Ellinika.

Ean oi goneis milane spiti tous Ellinika, den simainei oti tha megalwsoun ta paidia kai na milane Ellinika. Polla omos milane alla den ta grafoune. Sxoleia Ellinika (apoklistika) apo oti kserw prosferoun polles megales kai mikres ekklisies, alla prepei na plirwseis.

Quote:

Ftaei h athanati Ellhniki nootropia pou den afinei tous Ellhnes na organothoun kai na kanoun ta aparaitita vimata....?



sigoura den voithaei.

Egw prosopika plirwsa na ksana mathw Ellinika, efou egina melos ths ekklisias kai plironondas to na ginw melos. Kai den xriazomouna apo to Alpha Bhta.

Alla na steilw ta paidia mou ekei na mathoun Ellinika, oxi den tha to ekana, efoswn plirwna gia idiotika sxoleia, kai tis 2 wres kai 2 fores thn evdomada, einai adika lefta, efoswn tous matheneis kai spiti (oso exoun endiaferwn).

Edw oi ekklisies den einai ena vima, thelei odigish kati milia, se kati akataliles wres opou oi goneis ergazonde, as poume 4 me 6 to apogevma. Kai isos aftoi na einai merikoi logoi pou kai aloi den to kanoun.

Kai finally, distixws einai elaxistoi kai metrimenoi sto xeri oi defterh genaia Ellinwn pou (as poume) exei thn diathesh/thelish na mathei Ellinika sta paidia tou,kalws ? kakws? etsi einai.







 
ALEXIA* 
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ALEXIA*
Loc: ATHENS, GREECE
Registered on 03-31-05
12-12-05 09:59 PM - Post#30596    

    In response to MANOULI

Loipon na pw kai egw dio h tria pragmatakia... gia ton Kanada na to kanoume gnosto auto, twra gia Amerikh then kserw
1. ta paidia pou exoun gennithei kai megalwsei sto eksoteriko apo Ellhnes goneis, h exoun gennithei sthn Ellada alla metakomisan apo thn xora tous se mikrh hlikia, ola sxedon pygainoun se Ellhnika hmerisia sxoleia. Auta then anoikoun stin Ekklhsia, alla sthn Ellhnikh Koinotitas tis politias... twra vevaia, yparxoun kai ta sxoleia pou paradidoun mathima mono to Savato, alla ekei ta paidia then mathainoun tipota...einai mono gia na pairnoun ta lefta twn gonewn...
Oti exei kapio kosto einai fisiko gia ton logo oti auta ta hmerisia sxoleia einai idiotika kai to kratos then plironei tous kathigites olo to poson tou misthou...Oi epiloges yparxoun to ean tha mathoun ta paidia auta thn glwssa tous h oxi, kai auto eksartate apo tous goneis... an ta steiloun ta paidia tous sta sxoleia ta Ellhnika, tha mathoun ta panta, an oxi.. kalhtera as mhn to psaksoume to thema giati then ofelei ena paidi to odigei o gonois to an tha mathei h oxi....twra an oi gonois then to nomizoun anangkaio.... egw prosopika lypamai gia autous...







 
Giorgos 
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Giorgos
Loc: New York
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12-12-05 10:12 PM - Post#30598    

    In response to ALEXIA*

Ορισμενοι απο εσας εχετε γνωρισει τον Γιαννη απο το Σιατλ τον ξαδελφο μου.

Ο Γιαννης λοιπον εχει πατερα Ελληνα και μητερα Αμερικανα.

Ο Γιαννης μιλα πολυ καλα Ελληνικα αν και γεννηθηκε και μεγαλωσε στο εξωτερικο.

Μου ειπε καποτε. Ο πατερας μου με εδερνε οταν ειμουν μικρος γαι να μαθω Ελληνικα. Τωρα που μεγαλωσα τον ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ.
No!!! It's not another tea party.

http://www.taxmybelly.com








 
Margarita. 
margarita the one and only!
Posts: 361
Margarita.
Loc: San Francisco Ca
Registered on 10-11-05
12-12-05 10:32 PM - Post#30599    

    In response to Giorgos

Egw milaw sta pedia mou ellinika kai auta mou apantoun sta agllika...Katalavenoun alla den theloun na milane..
Me to zori pandria den geinete.Otan zousan h goneis mou milousane mazoi,yiati h mama mou tous elege oti mono ellinika sto spiti ths!! kai etsei emathe kai o andras mou pou den einai ellinas...Alla oloi lene oti einai pio polh ellinas apo oti eime agw ellinida..







 
MANOULI 
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12-13-05 07:01 AM - Post#30604    

    In response to Margarita.

Sthn USA den mou einai gnwsta ta apoklistikws Ellinika sxoleia, akoma kai sthn Astoria NY, opou kapote eitane 99% Ellines. Perhaps einai kratikoi nomoi, den kserw. Tarpon Springs Florida, olokliro xwrio, Elliko hmeriseio sxoleio den exei. Me tis wres omos nai.

Founder mas, egw den tha sikwna xeri sta paidia mou me tipota. Den me kanei afto lathos gonea. Opos eipe kai h Maggie akoma kai twra... milaw Ellinika apandane agglika, an kai ta pio polla ta exoun ksexasei.







 
Serres 
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Posts: 1
Loc: Greece
Registered on 09-06-05
12-13-05 12:49 PM - Post#30608    

    In response to MANOULI

Lipon,na pw kai egw thn gnwmh mou,
pistewo pws zume se mia dimokratiki politia,kathe enas exei to dikeoma na kanei na milai na grafi opws theli,giafto pistewo pws kathe enas analamwani afto pou theli na einai,ama theli kapios na mila kai na niothi san amerikanus exei to dikeoma!!!
Giafto afiste tus na einai oti thelune,se bores kai wroxes tha einai amerikanei,kai otan akougete kalos logus gai ellhnes tha niothune Ellhnes!!!







 
Giorgos 
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12-13-05 01:17 PM - Post#30609    

    In response to MANOULI

Εγραψα εδερνε μαλλον επρεπε να γραψω μαλωνε ισως.

Υπαρχει μια Ελληνικη παροιμια που λεει οπου δεν πεφτει λογος πεφτει ραβδος

Εγω δεν μαλωνω τα παιδια μου απλα οταν μου μιλουν Αγγλικα δεν τους απαντω.
Τους μιλω Ελληνικα και περιμενω απαντηση στα Ελληνικα.

Τα Αγγλικα η οποιαδηποτε γλωσσα σε οποια χωρα μενει καπιος θα την μαθει. Δεν ειναι κακο να μαθει και την Ελληνικη. Ουτε ειναι τοσο δυσκολο οσο φανταζει σε μερικους.

Εχετε δει εδω μεσα και λογικα θα εχετε συναντησει πολλα ατομα που θα ηθελαν να μιλουν την γλωσσα των γονεων τους των παππουδων τους κλπ.

Ας μην παθουμε και εμεις την ζημια που εχουν παθει οι Ιταλοι κκαι αλλοι μεταναστες, ειναι μη αντιστριψιμη.
No!!! It's not another tea party.

http://www.taxmybelly.com








 
Margarita. 
margarita the one and only!
Posts: 361
Margarita.
Loc: San Francisco Ca
Registered on 10-11-05
12-13-05 01:32 PM - Post#30610    

    In response to Giorgos

Den einai pia kai toso sobaro thema. Eipaxroun alla themata pollh pio sobara to an mathi kaneis Ellinika...Den tha valw maura an ta pedia mou den milane Ellinika.

to each his own!!!!







 
Giorgos 
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12-13-05 01:47 PM - Post#30612    

    In response to Margarita.

Ο καθενας μας Μαργαριτα ειναι ελευτερος να κανει οτι νομιζει.

Απλα η δικη μου λογικη λεει οτι τα παιδια μου θα ειναι καλυτερα αν γνωριζουν Ελληνικα και το εχω στις προταιρεοτητες μου.

Δεν μου κοστιζει τιποτα να μιλαω Ελληνικα στα παιδια μου, σαν γλωσσα ειναι πολυ η πιο πλουσια απο οποιαδηποτε αλλη.

Πολλα τα οφελη για οσους ξερουν να τα αναγνωριζουν.
No!!! It's not another tea party.

http://www.taxmybelly.com








 
anavrian 
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Posts: 73
Loc: GR
Registered on 12-10-05
12-13-05 02:14 PM - Post#30616    

    In response to Giorgos

Den ksero an prepei ta paidia prepei na ta dernoume h esto na ta malwnoume....sigoura omos,idiaitera otan einai mikra,prepei na ta piesoume ligo.
An enas pateras kai mia mitera to ksekatharisoun oti h glossa pou milietai sto spiti einai ta Ellhnika....den nomizo ta paidia na exoun polla perithoria antidrasis.
Ops hdh anaferate....perte to ws mia kseni glossa....stin Ellada plironoun idiaitera mathimata gia na mathoun ksenes glosses.
Auto exo akousei ki ego...oti oso zoune kapioi papoudes kai giagiades pou epivaloun ta Ellhnika mesa sto spiti...paei kala
Meta otan autoi feugoun apo thn zoi.....oi goneis xalaronoun kai stamatane na milane.
Den nomizo oti afaireis ta dhmokratika dikaiomata enos paidiou an to pieseis ligo na sou apantaei Ellhnika....

Den einai eukolo...alla mipos makroprothesma ta paidia mas tha mas euxaristoun?

Den katalava to post tou Serres.....prospathise malon na prosvalei tous Ellhnes ths Amerikhs....alla den nomizo oti ta katafere.
Ego den zo gonatistos......








 
evita 
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Posts: 45
Loc: Germany
Registered on 12-08-04
12-13-05 04:04 PM - Post#30620    

    In response to MANOULI

hallo,

megalosa stin germania apo ellines gonis kai omilo thn glossa. I neolea edo prospathei na mathi me kathe tropo ta ellinika xoris na tous piesi kanis kai episis poli germanoi thelune na mathune tin glossa apo as to po agapi gia tin ellada.

prosopika tha esthanomuna asxima an den milusa tin glossa, xano kati apo tin identity mou.

Den ksero pos ine ta pragmata stin ameriki. Ta paidia eki den dixnune endiaferon giatis rizes tou gia ta ellinika ithi kai ethima?

polli lene oti den ine ipoxrotiko na mathi kanis tin glossa, mias kai den exune pare dose me tin ellada. Ine arages afto sosto? Oses pio polles glosses kseri kanis toso to kalitero oxi mono gia prosopokus logus alla ke gia epagelmatikus.

gia na katalabo pio kala, i neolea tis amerikis exei ksegrapsi telios tin ellada, den iparxei kapio endiaferon?

kalo apogema apo germania







 
wiseone 
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Posts: 253
wiseone
Loc: Ont. Canada
Registered on 10-05-05
12-13-05 05:39 PM - Post#30621    

    In response to evita

Egw nomizw oti h Elliniki glossa einai poli symantiki gia polous logous kai prepei opos dipote na prospathish kanis na piesh ligw ta pedia tou na ta mathi. Ta dikamou pedia pou einai defteri genia ta milane, o gios mou grafei kai diavazh kai poli kala. Ama i goneis den diksoun ligw endiaferwn tote ti perimenis apta pedia.
We Only Exist In The Minds of Those Who Acknowledge Our Existence.








 
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