Esu twra, erxesai na miliseis gia mia xwra san tin Ameriki, na tin sigrineis me alles mikroteres, na peis kai osa exeis akousei kai den exeis zisei kai alla.

Oso gia tous Indianous nai einai ta megala eglimata twn Ispanwn kuriws. Sto periodiko Daulos yparxei ena afierwma ayto to mina sxetiko me tin dialisi tou Politismou twn INKA me kathodigisi tou Papa Aleksadrou ST toy Borgia,
me arxigo ton Fernanto Kortez. Mipws to oti itan Ispanos sou leei tipote?
Auta ta peri ipikootitas Amerikanikis
de me agizoun giati an den epairna filarako mou ayti tin ipikootita de tha ebriska ergasia pou ithela sto dimosio kai de tha eixa auta ta dikaiwmata pou exw meta apo ayti tin tipiki diadikasia. Alla sebomai ti xwra pou zw, de paranomw spoudasa megalwnw ta paidia mou se ena apo ta kalitera ekpedeutika sustimata pou exei o kosmos simera. Zise stin Germania sou opws esi theleis alla afise kai emas edw na zoume opws emeis nomizoume.

An mou eleges oti kaneis kati na beltiwseis tis sxeseis tis Elladas me tous allous,
an etrexes na apaitiseis apo tous Germanous ta xrimata pou xrwstane stous Ellines tha se uperaspizomoun kai tha etrexa apo pisw sou na ta zitisw kai egw. An empodizes tous Ellines na ksepoulane tin Ellada stoys Germanous tha se paradexomoun.
Omws esi to mono pou kaneis einai na katigoreis tous simpatriwtes sou pou eyhmeroun se touti ti xwra kai tin yperaspizontai.

As mas enwnei i koini agapi gia ti patrida Panagioti kai tipote allo.

Oso gia tin apantropi eksoteriki politiki tis Amerikis opws les, tha sou pw kati pou akousa se ena sumposio akadimaikwn filosofwn sti Nea Yorki prin ligo kairo. Oloi simfonisan oti autos o polemos prepei na stamatisei. Mas eipan, afou de pernaei o logos mas sta mesa mazikis enimerosis, na ta leme me to stoma opou prepei. Alla pou pernaei o logos simera Panagioti? Mipws pernaei sti Germania?

Alla se erwtw file Panagioti.
Exeis rwtisei to meso NeoYrkezo pws niothei pou eide se mia wra na xanontai tosoi antrwpoi kai na katarreei kopos xronwn?
Mi mou peis oti ayta plirwnei i ameriki gia oti ekane sti Giougoslavia, giati kai o Milosevits den itan athwa peristera.

Alla enas apo tous aristerous filosofous tis Eyropis de milise se ekeino to polemo kai milise prin ligo kairo sto panepistimio thessalonikis sa proskeklimenos legontas, oti
i Eyropi eblekse tin Ameriki se ena brwmiko polemo kata twn Balkanwn.
An o Germanos, o Gallos kai oi alloi elegan oxi ekeini tin epoxi den tha ginotan tipote.
Alla ta ithelan kai aytoi kai twra rixnoun to balaki stin Ameriki.

De ftaiei o mesos amerikanos politis gia oti ginetai simera. An den ton ekane ayto to polemo tha ksesikonotan o kosmos Panagioti.
Kai gnwrizoume kala pou einai to brwmiko paixnidi tis exwterikis politikis ekei pou briskei edafos ,opws asthenes nomisma i politikes anataraxes(Xounta Ellada daktilos Amerikis).

na sou pw kai kati allo?
ta eglimata pou ekanan oi diaforoi thriskeytikoi igetes tou xristianismou einai ta megalitera pou exoun ginei stin anthropotita, kai ayta tis Rwssias tou Stalin den exoun tairi.

I Ameriki prostatebei ta paidia tis.

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I istoselida pou anafereis, mono vlakeies kai asinartisies legei, na mi pw tipote allo. Idou ena komati.

* Μερικούς μήνες μετά από μιά τέτοια υποθετική *τραγωδία*, οι Αμερικανοί και οι Αμερικανοέλληνες που ζουν στην Ελλάδα αντέδρασαν έντονα μόλις έμαθαν ότι ο μεγάλος σταρ-τραγουδιστής των ΗΠΑ, Νotis, που έχε αποκαλέσει την δεύτερη πατρίδα τους (την Ελλάδα) *πατσαβούρα* την επομένη της *τραγωδίας*, θα έδινε συναυλίες σε πέντε ελληνικές πόλεις και ζήτησαν να μην τολμήσει καν να πατήσει το πόδι του στην Αθήνα. Την ενέργειά τους αυτή τα ΜΜΕ στις ΗΠΑ αποκάλεσαν *κορυφαίο φαινόμενο αντιαμερικανισμού*.

Prosekse ta lathoi:
1.*Ypothetiki tragwthia*, ti simainei auto, oti ta didima den ta riksane, simainei oti eksafanistikan dia mageias, i oti oi Amerikanoi skotwsan panw apo 4,000 atoma, etsi gia na vroun aformi na vovardisoun to Afganistan. Sinelthete ligo.

2. O Notis Sfakianakis DEN EINAI tragoudistis twn USA. Enas Ellinas thrinodos kakis poiotitos, kata tin gnwmi mou, einai, pou ithele na elthei stin xwra pou evrise na gemisei tis tsepes tou. Etsi, lathos einai h pliroforia pou sou dini auti i istoselida kai o/h sigrafeas pou toso adiadropa diastrevlwnei tin alithia.

3. I deuteri patrida twn Ellinoamerikanwn, an kai irwniko to sxoleio, den einai opos ta legei o/h savourolaspolografos. Apo oti katalavainw apo deutero xeri men alla aksiopisto de, tin Ameriki apokalese savoura on laspothrinodos Notis. Kai eksipakouetai, oti autoi pou menoun se mia *patsavoura* xwra, den einai tipota kalitero apo patsavoures. Etsi den einai Panagiwti. Kati paraplisio eipes k'esy. O k. Sfakianakis den eixe oute tin euthiksia, ala oute kai tin euesthisia kan na sevasti toses xiliades nekrouns. Etsi loipon, pali lathos ta legei i/o savourolaspolografos.

3.Dikaiws, kata tin gnwmi mou kai pali, ekanan oi Ellines edw pou den ton eithelan, kai metaksi autwn k'egw. Tetoious thrinodous san ton Sfakianaki, pou ean einai alithia auta pou tou katalogizoun, den tous xriazomaste. Kai auto pros gnwsi kai simorfwsi twn *sinetwn* kai *sovarwn* thrinodwn i kalitexnwn. Vlepeis Panagiwti ti borei na kanei o kosmos edw? Pola, arkei na to thelei.

4. Auto den einai digma antiamerikanismou, apo pou k'ws pou, na mi thelei kaneis enan Ellina thrinodo, kai na apokalite...antiamerikanos.

5. Kai pia MME, Panagiwti, les kai ta Amerikanika MME exoun oreksi na asxolithoun me ta tou k. Sfakianaki kamomata.

6. To SAE den einai Ellinoamerikaniki organosi. Exei ellinoamerikanous kareklokendaurous mesa, alla xrimatodotite apo to PASOK. Oi pliopsifia twn Ellinwn edw, kai toulaxiston autous pou gnwrizw, den theloun na exoun kamia sxesi me t SAE giati den tous antiprwsopeuei. To SAE den exei idea apo ta provlimata pou aposxoloun tous ellinas tis Amerikis. Mono taksidia *tzaba* kseroun na kanoun me ta xrimata tou Ellina forologoumenou.

7. Ean i kivernisi eperne k'ekeini tosa e-mails apo tous ellinas forologoumenous osa piran kai oi organotes tou k. Sfakianaki gia na elthei stin Ameriki, sigoura den tha ipirxe SAE simera.

Mia simvouli Panagioti. Steile kamia istoselida kaliteri, auti mono vlakeies legei. Kai esy, pause na diavazeis toses vlakeies. Arage poios plirwnei autin tin istoselida gia na ksefournizei vlakeies.

Diavase kati sovarotero Panagioti gia na enimerwtheis kalitera. Eisai kalos Ellinas kai to sevomai afantasta poli. Ponas tin Ellada opos tosoi alloi, k'egw mazi. Oi kaloi ellines sevontai tous apantaxou Ellines, giati monon ean sevomaste o enas ton allon tha pame brosta.

Auta.

[This message has been edited by thalassolikos nikolas (edited 03-01-2002).]

[This message has been edited by thalassolikos nikolas (edited 03-01-2002).]

Panagioti, an oi laoi katafernan na moniazoun opws stin Ameriki, o kosmos tha itan kaliteros. Kai mi mou peis oti mas foberizei
kanenas na sebomaste tous allous kai ti gnomi toys sayti ti megaliodi xwra pou legetai Ameriki.

I xwra pou me anedeikse opws sou eipa xwris na me rwtisei apo pou kratouse i skoufia mou, pou anoikse to kosmo tis kai me upodextike na spoudasw gria pia kata tous Ellines na spoudazeis sta 40, nea panta gia toys Amerikanous. Panta tha to lew God Bless America akomi kian me stiseis sta tessera metra.

Egw exw dio paidia sta kalitera dimosia sxoleia tis Neas Yorkis kai kserw oti ayta pou mathenoun ta paidia mou ta dika sas prepei na plirosoun tonous xrimatwn sti parapaideia sas gia na spoudasoun.

The Police never mistreated me, nobody ever asked me for my passport no matter how late I was out, I partied all hours of the night, and nobody ever did anything to bother me.

I don't know what you mean by *otan se doune me ligo sinalagma* because I never had any problem about that either. Neither did any of my many friends (and I had a lot of friends, some among them young students from Greece and other countries in German Universities, now architects and doctors and surgeons and archeologists). So you sure it was Germany you visited or some imaginary country in your mind?

I also don't know what you mean by *afiloxenous laous.* I found Germany and the Germans to be extremely friendly, open and fun. I traveled a lot when I was there. Lived around the Darmstadt, Frankfurt area, and north around Bremenhaven (did I remember to spell it correctly?) and south toward Munich and visited most of the rest of the country and surrounding countries in the weekends and holidays. Everywhere I went I enjoyed an always clean and filoxeni xora, made friends, was invited to eat and have fun in their homes and everyone was always very easy and fun to be with.

I especially enjoyed the annual burning of the castles on the Rhine, with the many fires and fire works, and floating candles, and people walking covered in lights on both sides of the river. It was a fun time and a fun place to be.

Alla edw otan kamia fora erxomai kai sas diavazw, oloi lete ta idia, san h Germania na sas exei peiraxei. Exete ena paidi, exete dio paidia, exete kores, exete gious, kai OLOI sas ta paidia sas spoudazoun sta KALITERA sxoleia tis Neas Yorkis. I mean... come ooooooooooon!

You live in the states and you don't know about guns? I now live in the states too. So, come oooooooooooon! Can't you tell how silly you sound? You must tell yourself that you have the best life in the Universe, and that you are smarter and CERTAINLY more educated than averybody else, before you can make it out of bed in the morning.

You really must have led a pretty inferior life in your past and every little comfort now must seem to you bigger than life. Can you not feel good enough about yourself and your country without diminishing others?

You have such a very lopsided view of the rest of the world and the countries and people in it, that I have come to the conclusion that either I am in the presence of royalty, or you listen to too much propaganda where you live and work and you have developed a pretty deep inferiority complex.

Ti poiothta zohs ehoun aftoi pou den ehoun idiotikh iatrikh asfalish - mehri kai sto emergency na pas se nosokomeio se rotan amesos pou eisai asfalismenos kai an den eisai...tough luck.
Ti poiothta zohs ehoun osoi den ehoun aytokinhto sthn US? Ta mesa mazikhs sygkoinonias einai axiolyphta (isos h NY kai merikes alles poleis einai exairesh). Ezhsa sto LA opou phgaina me ta podia sto supermarket kai me koitousan les kai hmoun freak of nature. Evgainan apo ta spitia tous oi amerikanoi kai me koitousan, san axiotheato pou kouvalousa me ta podia ta psonia. To megalytero joke einai na prospathiseis na pareis leoforio sto LA.

Poso kairos ezhses stin Ameriki? Dio mhnes? Kai xeris ta panta. Bravo file. Se plhrofo oti auta pou nimizis den einai h pragmatikothta. Oso yia ta panepistimia pou les, einai gegonos oti stin Ameriki plironis alla den eienai kommatarxia ute Mpordella opos einai stin Ellada. Pios sou eipe oti e paidia prepei na einai dorean? Ete dorean legete ete oxi kapoios plerwne file. Alla distixos e nootropia tou Ellhna enai oti arpakse e tsepi tou. Akomh kai o patriotismos einai analoga me ten tsepi kai to kommatiko semferon tou kathenos.

Oso yia iatrike perithalpsi? Pios sou epe oti kai aute prepe na einai dorean? Pios tha plerose tous terastious misthous ton yiatron? Oute kai auti einai mpordello stin Ameriki opos stin Ellada. Xero poli kala thn katastasi perithalpsis stin Ellada. Ena sestema pou to lymainontai oi apateones Ellhnes yiatroi ete stin Ellada zoune eite sto exwteriko. Kyklomata organomena pou den mpore na ta spase kanenas. Tha mporousa na parousiasw dokumenta. Ta asfalistika tameia ta lestevoun apateones Ellhnes yiatroi ete stin Ellada einei, ete stin Agglia ete stin Ameriki. Xero poly kala yia ti milao. Plerone o kosmos yia asfalese se tameia. Alla opos lei mia paroimia* mpete skyloi aleste kai alestika me dosetai*. Pios diaxerizetai ta lefta tou sta tamea? Apateones. Fakelakia? Pae a asthenis se yiatro kai tou lei na poulise kanena xorafaki yia no tou dosi fakelaki. Auto enai to dorean sestema?

Meta einai kratos auto? Otan den dini tin idia eukairia se olous? Aute eine e Demokratia? Prepe na gnorizis, na ladosis, na dosis fakelaki, kai na, kai na. ktl ktl. Kai mi mou pis oti meso tin Ellada kai eksymno tin Ameriki. Yiati prepe na sou lipsi erketa h Ellada yia na tin agapeses. Kai esena mallon den sou elepse arketa. Kapou volefthkes eke, opos polloi alloi.

Thes na po kai yia ta narkotika? Ta eda me ta matia mou to ti ginetai stin patrida.
Sas exe kane plysi ekgefalou e thleorasis kai autoi pou parousiazoun ta xeirotera tis Amerikis. To idio kanoun kai merikoi tenekedes xeganotoi tou Antenna. Dixnoun ta xeirotera yia tih Ellada sto exoteriko.

Remember, LESS is MORE!

pia iatriki perithalpsi tis Elladas mou milate. Ekana treis exiriseis kai alla pou de legontai edw kai kanenas amerikanos giatros de mou zitise fakelaki. An imoun Ellada tha me eixan kai stous azititous.

Genithika megalwsa Ellada kai efaga kai tis allages sti plati mou kai kserw pws leitourgoun ta brwmika sustimata tis Ellinikis pragmatikotitas. Aisxos se olous pou anexontai tetia xalia. Twra thelw na bgalw mia suntaksi gia to sizigo mou pou pethane kai me stelnoun apo grafeio se grafeio xwris computers na broun akri gia themata nomika kai plirofories.

Stin ameriki ayta de xreiazetai na trexeis erxontai piato apo mona tous kai se briskoun.
To kratos frontizei apo mono tou na se boithisei.

Oso gia ta sxoleia. Pios sas eipe oti ta Amerikanakia den einai kala sta mathimatika.
Mwre megali idea exete gia ton eayto sas . An sas pw esas pou ta lete ayta ena problima merismou de tha kserete na apantisete. An sas balw kai pio diskola kamia diaforiki eksisosi tha ginete doriforoi. Ayta na ta lete allou kai ekei pou pernane. Otan eisai skrapas opou kai nasai eisai skrapas.
Mipws oloi auta ta mathimatika pou xrisimopoioun oi Amerikanoi sti kathimerini toys zwi zitane apo esas na tous ta lisete?
eidate kai kserete oti de ksefeygoun apo ta prognwstika tous kai apo tis efeyreseis tous kai alla. Mipws einai oti zitane boithia apo esas megaloegefaloi?
To ekpaideitiko sistima tis Amerikis boitahei na mathei o nous kai oxi na papagalisei.

Oso gia ta narkotika. Filakste ta paidia sas apo tin apeili. De sas blepw Ellines goneis na eisaste etoimoi na boithisete ta paidia sas. Kai mi mou peite oti pali i ameriki sas ta stelnei ekei giati tha sas apodeiksw
pooi sas ta eisagoun apo tas Eyropas.

Gia mazepste ta paidia sas apo tous dromous pou girizoun sa ta alitakia mexri ta ksimerwmata ta kalokairia me kathe eidous tourista kai touristria pou briskoun stis paralies kai sta nixterina kedra.
Blepoume kathe kalokairi ti diaftora tis neolaias. Oi goneis na paizoun xartia kai ta paidia na girizoun ksimerwmata.

Tetio misos kai zilia gia Ellada kai Eurwpi
apo allo Ellina h Ellinida den exw ksanakousei. Vgainei apo mesa sou san fakos
pou antanakla se laspomeno toixo kai fainete to vromiko fws tou na erxetai apo allou.

Kai tetoies palavomares kai GIA TIS DIO XORES tin Ameriki kai tin Ellada den exw
ksanakousei. Prospathoume na min pesoume sto epipedo sou kai vrizoume kai emeis, alla kamia fora mas ksefeugei apo aganaxtisi me tis fantasies pou exeis.

Kai an ikseres kaumenoula mou tin pragmatikotita kai se pious nomizeis oti milas edw mesa, tha ekleges gia ton eauton sou, giati emeis se lipomaste, me tis mionektikotites pou exeis.

Pantou peiges, ta panta ekanes kai ola ta gnorises, kai tipota den ksereis. Autoi pou PRAGMATIKA gnorizoun kai exoun paei, kai exoun zisi, to vlepoun FANERA oti les fantasies me polu liges gnoseis sta zitimata auta.

Mia thesi sto koino exeis, pou edw stin Ameriki einai poli eukoles na vrethoun, me titlous pou den ennooun tipota, kai oi opies theseis st' alithia gemizoun me mesa apo mikrous politikous, propantws stis magales poleis. *Glorified secreataries* lene oi professionals autes tis theseis. Daxtilografous me ena gimnasio kai tipota allo vazoun ekei. Kai kaneis pos ksereis kiolas.

Den xriazomaste patriotes/tises san esena stin Ameriki. Diladi autous pou pisteuoun oti prepei na miosoun kapion allon gia na aisthanthoune tin megalomania tous.

Egw lew, vges ligo pio ekso na matheis tin pragmatikotita kai edw kai ekei, kai min koitazesai ston kathrefti na milas me ton eauton sou kai me tis anoisies pou se didaskoune ekei pou eisai, giati isos kai autoi akoma gelane mazi sou.

Mou thimizeis tis gitonisa's tis Evraia's tin mikroula kori pou etrwge tis fterouges apo to kotopoulo me ta kokkala kai tis petses kai elege poso eitan tixeri *I am soooo lucky, I ate chicken wings today* kai tis Ellinidas h kori etrwge to stithos to psaxno kai den elege tipota.

Proti kai teleutaia fora pou tha akoustw se auto to thema, kai oute kai ksanadiavazw tis anoisies tou kathe enos.