jobjsusatopforum
Chat-Room Members News Message Board Join Mail List

 

   


It's a Strangle World out there >> Explore the Uknown <>

Eva-Redi
zizani with a twist
***

Reged: Wed
Posts: 1237
Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου!
      Wed May 09 2007 04:25 AM

Quote:

Εσύ έκρινες ένα site χωρίς καν να γνωρίσεις την προσπάθεια και το προφίλ των ανθρώπων που το προωθούν. Κρίμα ...




Xairete 'metafysiko'

Ma8e oti oute kakh, oute anohth eimai >> kai sugnomh an alu8eia para3igi8ikes me auta pou sou egrapsa, auth den htan ka8olou h prospa8eia mou ! Apla ekfrasa eu8hs auta pou pisteuw kai gnwrizo - kai bebaia auta pou einai eurutata apodexomena, genika.

Sugoura, o ka8enas mas pisteuei, litourgei kai ekfrazete opos 8elei, opos 'nwmizei' kalutera telika. Egw, apla protimo na litourgw/asxolieme me 8emata pragmatika, tis pragmatikotitas >> pws alios na s'to pw: I'm a 'realist' who is truly pragmatic, and who prefers to work with logic, reason and common sense. That doesn't mean however that I'm not open to new ideas or alternative beliefs (beyond my own comfort zone). I will certainly (and most willingly) spend the rest of my life seeking and expanding on whatever 'little' knowledge I currently posses.

Omos, gia to 8ema pou mas anaferes, sou zitw na skefteis mia frash (kai sugnomh pou s'ta grafw sta Agglika): whatever theory or belief is put forward publicly - must equally and unequivocally be open to 'scrutiny and criticism' (of all kinds, no matter where it's coming from).

Na sou pw ki'olas - kapos 3afniastika, mou ekane polu entiposh eki pou egrapses: "η μεταφυσική του σήμερα είναι η φυσική του αύριο"

>> kai gia auto to logo akribos ekana mia glhgorh sizitish me ena agaphmeno mou prosopo pou tuxenh na einai 'mathematical physicist' (in science, technology and defence). Sumfwnisame se polla pragmata gia tis ahdies anamesa tou Metaphysics kai me thn parallhlh sugkrish pou ekanes meta3h tou Metaphysics & Physics, sto mellon dld. Telika, to atomo mou prwsfere kapies anpantiseis gia to 8ema auto. Se aplo, pio sunoptiko morfh kanw arxh egw - kai parakatw akoulou8ei h oloklirh apantish tou Fusikou >>

Metaphysics and Paranormal subject matters are equivalent to and often termed 'Aesthetic Theory/ies' > which essentially means: those theories/hypotheses that can neither be proven or disproved , at any point in time. Indeed, any 'Joe' is free to come up with any given theory. However, these unproven/invalidated theories and bits of information are in effect >> pointless/useless in the real world and outside or beyond the individual/s concerned. Aesthetic theories basically serve to justify or support the beliefs and claims of those who are either unaffected or disinterested in the usual methods/protocols of 'scrutiny and criticism'.

-------------------------------------------

Metaphysics is a branch of Philosophy concerned with the efforts of explaining 'the nature of reality'.

Metaphysics also covers things such as empirical explanations of the world (ie: true science), however people quite often use the term loosely to justify even the most ludicrous of beliefs or ideas, at times.

As argued meticulously by the existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre, "reality" is the sum of experiences that one has with the world. This also includes experiences such as one's delusions, mental apparitions, and the like. In order to establish some level of uniformity and universality within the realms of experience and notions of reality , empirical science relies upon the reproductability of events. Therefore, anything [else] that cannot be reproduced by experimental validation is ultimately considered mere 'belief/s'.

The advance of human knowledge regarding the state of reality is based on modifying ideals and principles of current science. This leads to predictions. Experimental verification of these predictions leads to a universality of these new ideals in the realm of our current wisdom and knowledge. This cycle of prediction and validation is the underlying principle (or science) that ever refines our notion of reality. This method of 'open scrutiny' is consequently/exactly what is lacking in the field of Metaphysics.

Anything else or other than verified/validated matter is therefore merely an 'Aesthetic Theory': that is, a set of ideals or beliefs that can neither be proven or disproved . Many groups and individuals alike tend to use such 'aesthetic principles' [whether consciously or unwittingly] to support their varying and alternative beliefs - - simply because they are unaffected by scrutiny and/or criticism. Aesthetic theories tend to nourish a false sense of security and validity for those individuals who dabble in subject matters that are literally beyond proof or impossible to prove. To this extent, non-empirical metaphysics is a means to an end for one to support their very own "ivory-tower" ideals. Such "philosophy" is stale and does nothing to advance humanity; it has surfaced time and time again throughout history; and very often is said to retard the course of 'human development and civilization' - to some degree.
[Harsh words - but scientific words, nevertheless]


Kai mia teleutaia mou skepsei:

Eki pou grafeis: « σπουδάζουν σε πανεπιστήμια της χώρας...εδώ και 5 χρόνια...πιο σοβαρές προσπάθειες στην προσέγγιση ανάλογων θεμάτων...υπάρχουν συνεντεύξεις -συνεργασίες με ακαδημαϊκούς ακόμη και Έλληνες βουλευτές »

Bravo, giath oxi - kala kanoun oi Akadhmaiikoi kai oi foithtes, omos h Bouleutes - - - kapos/ligo para3enw to briskw! Edw, me kanena tropo, enas Bouleteis (kai otidipote Member of Parliament) de prokete na ekfrasoun tetoies pisteies kai idees (an tuxon kai to pisteuoun bebaia) >> panta einai upoxrewmenoi na menoun > objective, impartial, cautious, reasonable, pragmatic - and avoid any subject matter or issue that may be controversial, potentially explosive or that may indicate some 'conflict of interest/s' ( between the MP's personal life/ideals and that of the political party involved). Efwson to sthrizoun kai merikoi Bouleutes eki (opos mas les), to 8ema totenes, tou Metaphysics - isos na ani3h parapanw xora gia ereunes kia periswtera tameia (ap' tous idious).

Oste gia thn "τεράστια άγνοια" pou mou xrewneis lupon, sunexizw na pisteuw (opos proto egrapsa) oti: "to science kai ta paranormal metaphysics pote den prokete na sumfwnisoun, se tipota." Ase pou eimai toublo-kefalo kai miso - kapies stigmes, se kati pragmata >> kapou anmesa mou (as mhn to pisteueis) krato kai to >> "Never Say Never"!

--------------------
Βρήκες ακατάλληλη στιγμή να με ανταμώσεις. Eγώ δεν έχω τίποτα, πάλι σου το θυμίζω. Mια καρδια μου έμεινε ♥ παρ’την, σου την χαρίζω. Δεν έχω όνειρο, ούτε φτερά για να πετάξω ...

Post Extras Print Post   Remind Me!     Notify Moderator


Entire topic
Subject Posted by Posted on
* Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! metafysiko Mon May 07 2007 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! Eva-Redi   Mon May 07 2007 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! GiorgosAdministrator   Tue May 08 2007 10:02 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! metafysiko   Tue May 08 2007 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! Eva-Redi   Wed May 09 2007 04:25 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! metafysiko   Thu May 10 2007 02:18 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! Eva-Redi   Sat May 12 2007 08:32 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! Solon   Fri May 18 2007 04:18 AM
. * * Re: Η πρώτη προσπάθεια ανάδειξης του ελληνικού χώρου του παράξενου! Eva-Redi   Fri May 18 2007 02:48 PM

Extra information
0 registered and 2 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Your_Future_, GIORGOS_Athens_Hellas 



Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is enabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 2462

Rate this thread

Jump to

Contact Us Yasou.com

*
UBB.threads™ 6.5
With modifications from Omogenia.com by Yasou.com

New Page 2